Serious Brain Teaser

This one has been doing the rounds this morning, so I couldn’t resist posting it here:

PS. If anyone knows where this originated please let me know and I’ll give proper credit!

PPS. Note that the Mike Disney option (300%) is missing…

23 Responses to “Serious Brain Teaser”

  1. Very likely from Richard Wiseman.

    It’s the Friday Puzzle!

  2. Or possibly David Spiegelhalter, difficult to tell who came first?

  3. telescoper's avatar
    telescoper Says:

    The correct answer is of course Coventry City, in 1987.

  4. Or is it ⋊ ?
    Such a circular argument that my pinic table has fallen over (to the right)

    Yes, Richard Wiseman it appears – I saw it at about 8am from @ColinTheMathmo

  5. The correct answer to this question clearly depends on what the correct answer actually is.

  6. What’s the answer to this question?

  7. Anton Garrett's avatar
    Anton Garrett Says:

    MORNINGTON CRESCENT!

  8. telescoper's avatar
    telescoper Says:

    A more interesting question is what are the little black rectangles all over the chalkboard?

  9. telescoper's avatar
    telescoper Says:

    Is this a question?

  10. Is the question some form of “logical fallacy” ?
    An existential one perhaps ? I’m in the dark.

    More topically, if a FTSE 100 executive choses a pay increase at random (say >49%), what’s the probability the executive think’s they are right? a) 100%, b) 100%, c) 100%, d) 100%

  11. Iterative Circular Simulator's avatar
    Iterative Circular Simulator Says:

    original source?
    https://plus.google.com/116264189418994838408/posts/CSXeyftovTJ

    By the way, I set up a quick simulation of the problem:

    make a random pick 1-4, ask: does the look up value match – to within a small error – the cumulative frequency of all previous random picks?, then add a 1 or 0 to the stack for True/False and calculate the new (n+1)th cumulative frequency, then let the simulation run until a large number (N) of iterations is reached.

    The results, plotted vs. iteration number (n), quickly settled into bi-stable alternation, hoping between 25% and 50% – so no convergence. Pretty sweet.

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  13. Trevor Ponman's avatar
    Trevor Ponman Says:

    Very nice! After banging my head on the wall for some time, I came to the conclusion that there is an answer. Isn’t it zero? On the basis that none of the answers (a)-(d) is self-consistently correct.

    An interesting variant is to change (d) to 50%. What is the answer now?

  14. If the answer is 50% or 60%, you have a 25% chance of getting it; If the answer is 25%, you have a 50% chance of getting it. Trick question or, more likely, what am I missing?
    :-S

  15. This is Russell’s Paradox 110 years later. A set of numbers cannot be included as a member of it’s own set. So by listing 25% twice, the question basically makes the entire list of 4 answers a member of the set…basically a 5th answer which also contains an answer.
    That paradox creates a logical loop because the set of 4 cannot also be one of the answers.

  16. telescoper's avatar
    telescoper Says:

    Thinking about this problem again made me think (for some reason) of Turing’s famous Halting Problem and the so-called Doomsday argument.

    The thing is that even using the proper Bayesian framework for generalising deductive logic to uncertain events is bound to fail if one is dealing with propositions which would be undecidable even with certain knowledge.

    Must think about this a bit more.

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